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	<title>Comments on: Why we moved away from &#8220;the cloud&#8221; to a &#8220;real&#8221; server</title>
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		<title>By: Moved away &#124; Tag2g</title>
		<link>http://blog.boxedice.com/2009/09/08/why-we-moved-away-from-the-cloud-to-a-real-server/#comment-2259</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Moved away &#124; Tag2g]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 May 2011 00:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Why we moved away from &#8220;the cloud&#8221; to a &#8220;real&#8221; server &#171;Why we moved away from &#8220;the cloud&#8221; to a &#8220;real&#8221; server &#171; Boxed Ice Blog &#171; Netcrema &#8211; creme de la social news via digg + delicious + stumpleupon + reddit&#8230; [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Introducing the new Server Density infrastructure &#171; Boxed Ice Blog</title>
		<link>http://blog.boxedice.com/2009/09/08/why-we-moved-away-from-the-cloud-to-a-real-server/#comment-1229</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Introducing the new Server Density infrastructure &#171; Boxed Ice Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] the new Server Density&#160;infrastructure September 10, 2010    by David Mytton   Since we moved to Rackspace from our very first servers with Slicehost, our hosting requirements have grown significantly. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the new Server Density&nbsp;infrastructure September 10, 2010    by David Mytton   Since we moved to Rackspace from our very first servers with Slicehost, our hosting requirements have grown significantly. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew TIllman</title>
		<link>http://blog.boxedice.com/2009/09/08/why-we-moved-away-from-the-cloud-to-a-real-server/#comment-525</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew TIllman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We have been using EC2 and my experience is that if you have fairly consistent computing requirements you really are better off with a &quot;real&quot; server.  

That being said, the type of online service that can really benefit from something like EC2 is a service where the demand spikes a lot, were are certain times of the year were you are going to get a ton of demand, and other long periods of time were your demand is less then a tenth of your peak demand.  Think of people that sell seasonal products, or something like the post office and such.  In this situation EB2 gives you the real fexibility it seems to be designed for.  You can quickly create more instances to handle your increased demand, and then get rid of them when your demand goes down.  In this way you are not buying hardware to handles the biggest possible demand you get and you can scale up and down as needed without having servers sitting idle a lot of the time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have been using EC2 and my experience is that if you have fairly consistent computing requirements you really are better off with a &#8220;real&#8221; server.  </p>
<p>That being said, the type of online service that can really benefit from something like EC2 is a service where the demand spikes a lot, were are certain times of the year were you are going to get a ton of demand, and other long periods of time were your demand is less then a tenth of your peak demand.  Think of people that sell seasonal products, or something like the post office and such.  In this situation EB2 gives you the real fexibility it seems to be designed for.  You can quickly create more instances to handle your increased demand, and then get rid of them when your demand goes down.  In this way you are not buying hardware to handles the biggest possible demand you get and you can scale up and down as needed without having servers sitting idle a lot of the time.</p>
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		<title>By: David M</title>
		<link>http://blog.boxedice.com/2009/09/08/why-we-moved-away-from-the-cloud-to-a-real-server/#comment-515</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We did you Rackspace Cloud Servers but the Cloud Files service, like Amazon S3, is designed for static files, not serving a database.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We did you Rackspace Cloud Servers but the Cloud Files service, like Amazon S3, is designed for static files, not serving a database.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://blog.boxedice.com/2009/09/08/why-we-moved-away-from-the-cloud-to-a-real-server/#comment-514</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 14:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why didn&#039;t you just do Rackspace Cloud Servers, and use the Cloud files service for cheap unlimited storage?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why didn&#8217;t you just do Rackspace Cloud Servers, and use the Cloud files service for cheap unlimited storage?</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian (from vzaar)</title>
		<link>http://blog.boxedice.com/2009/09/08/why-we-moved-away-from-the-cloud-to-a-real-server/#comment-500</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adrian (from vzaar)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 15:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You can avoid the PCI compliance issue on AWS with something like http://www.braintreepaymentsolutions.com/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can avoid the PCI compliance issue on AWS with something like <a href="http://www.braintreepaymentsolutions.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.braintreepaymentsolutions.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Stevie Clifton</title>
		<link>http://blog.boxedice.com/2009/09/08/why-we-moved-away-from-the-cloud-to-a-real-server/#comment-446</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stevie Clifton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 22:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey David, 

Interesting post.  One point in your post that seems a little misleading is saying that AWS is &quot;Not PCI compliant&quot;.  If my understanding is correct, AWS is only not PCI _Level 1_ compliant.  The vast majority of web sites out there don&#039;t require that level of compliance (which requires on-site inspections yearly).   Level 2, 3, and 4 don&#039;t require on-site inspections.  Here&#039;s a link to a description of the level differences: 
http://www.pcicomplianceguide.org/pcifaqs.php#5

So in theory, as long are you&#039;re processing less than 6 _million_ VISA transactions a year (which is probably 99.99% of web sites out there), you&#039;re fine using AWS.  I could be wrong, though :).

stevie]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey David, </p>
<p>Interesting post.  One point in your post that seems a little misleading is saying that AWS is &#8220;Not PCI compliant&#8221;.  If my understanding is correct, AWS is only not PCI _Level 1_ compliant.  The vast majority of web sites out there don&#8217;t require that level of compliance (which requires on-site inspections yearly).   Level 2, 3, and 4 don&#8217;t require on-site inspections.  Here&#8217;s a link to a description of the level differences:<br />
<a href="http://www.pcicomplianceguide.org/pcifaqs.php#5" rel="nofollow">http://www.pcicomplianceguide.org/pcifaqs.php#5</a></p>
<p>So in theory, as long are you&#8217;re processing less than 6 _million_ VISA transactions a year (which is probably 99.99% of web sites out there), you&#8217;re fine using AWS.  I could be wrong, though :).</p>
<p>stevie</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Tanner</title>
		<link>http://blog.boxedice.com/2009/09/08/why-we-moved-away-from-the-cloud-to-a-real-server/#comment-442</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Tanner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 00:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellent post, Dave. We&#039;re another loyal &#039;Spacer, always having been on dedicated servers though. Moving over from a single Texas server last year to a London based scalable cluster has taken our hosting bill to near 50% of our wage bill but service reliability is soooooo key with what we do. We&#039;re busy in the middle of a kernel update at the moment though - it&#039;s our first time offline in just under a year, having fielded DDOS and nasty image scraper attacks on client websites too. Rackspace = recommended.
See you next week :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post, Dave. We&#8217;re another loyal &#8216;Spacer, always having been on dedicated servers though. Moving over from a single Texas server last year to a London based scalable cluster has taken our hosting bill to near 50% of our wage bill but service reliability is soooooo key with what we do. We&#8217;re busy in the middle of a kernel update at the moment though &#8211; it&#8217;s our first time offline in just under a year, having fielded DDOS and nasty image scraper attacks on client websites too. Rackspace = recommended.<br />
See you next week :)</p>
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		<title>By: Blog Joyent&#160;&#124; The &#8220;Cloud&#8221; is supposed to &#8220;Real&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://blog.boxedice.com/2009/09/08/why-we-moved-away-from-the-cloud-to-a-real-server/#comment-440</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Blog Joyent&#160;&#124; The &#8220;Cloud&#8221; is supposed to &#8220;Real&#8221;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 18:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] pipes and cans connected by shoestrings, the thing most call The Internets™, I came across &#8220;Why we moved away from “the cloud” to a “real” server&#8221;  from the fellows at Boxed Ice. They have a server metrics and monitoring service named [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: tecosystems &#187; links for 2009-09-10</title>
		<link>http://blog.boxedice.com/2009/09/08/why-we-moved-away-from-the-cloud-to-a-real-server/#comment-429</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tecosystems &#187; links for 2009-09-10]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 01:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Why we moved away from “the cloud” to a “real” server « Boxed Ice Blog interesting cloud vs self-hosted use case with numbers (tags: cloud storage hardware hosting economics rackspace amazon slicehost) [...]]]></description>
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